Our last conversation about his WHY for betrayal

Affair recovery experts say it is very important to understand the reasons that led to infidelity. If you decide to work on your marriage after discovery or disclosure of your spouse's affair, the marriage therapists I came across in the early days after my husband's secret was exposed, talked about two conditions for this to work: ending the affair and understanding WHY it happened.



Andrew G. Marshall explains in his book "How Can I Ever Trust You Again?" that there are eight different types of affairs. He states so clearly each one of them that I didn't really need to discuss this topic with my husband after reading Andrew's explanations. Still, I realised that it was important for me and my husband to agree on how to avoid the reasons that led to his affair.

What we learned about the WHY of infidelity

The WHY someone who loves their spouse cheats is usually not clear for the unfaithful. There is a lot of denial and confusion in the mind of the person who has to hide an affair from someone they love or have loved for many years. 

I used to boil every time my husband would reply to me that "He was confused" while he was cheating. To me, confusion wasn't even near a decent excuse to cheat. 

Later I learned that this confusion is part of the denial and the compartmentalisation that allows a spouse to minimise the meaning of their affair. It is a mechanism of defence for them to be able to live with themselves and to carry on enjoying the limerence that accompanies their extramarital connection. 

During the early months after DDay, my husband and I went over his WHY. Apart from not being able to pinpoint one reason, he told me that the reasons changed over time. 

When did I stop asking

It was only recently, a bit over a year after discovering the secret affair and putting an end to it, that we had a decent conversation about the WHY. It is only now that I can talk about the affair with my husband and not flood emotionally. At least, not for a while during which I can ask questions objectively or state boundaries clearly. 

If I remain calm, he gets the right message and there is no need for becoming defensive. The past two weekends have been free of the topic of his affair. I am so happy to acknowledge this progress in our process of recovery post-affair. In the months following discovery, it seemed like I couldn't stop asking, thinking or complaining about how my husband had crossed the line and lied to me unempathetically for so long. 

This is what he said a couple of weeks ago that closed the case for me: "I shouldn't have let that work relationship get to where it got. The extra social outings with colleagues were unnecessary". 

Yes! This is what I knew was a red flag and a setting for "accidental" affairs to spark. I calmly replied to him: "Shame you chose to unwind with colleagues instead of spending time with your wife who was bored and you knew it. We could have done more fun things together. Now you know better". 

He listened, I listened. He acknowledged that work outings should be kept to the strictly compulsory ones. I reminded him that being high up in the corporate ladder makes other women feel drawn to him due to what he represents. He needs to avoid ambiguity and avoid giving the wrong message through body language and use of emojis. No touching and no emojis that can cause confusion are allowed. 

Is it closure?

I don't know if this is closure for me. For now, I feel that I don't want to go back to the WHY of my husband's betrayal. It is over. We have analysed it in many ways: on our own, in writing, with the therapist, through books and vlogs. 

It has been useful in establishing boundaries that can help to avoid either of us falling into the affair trap again. There is no guarantee, but at least I feel that I can continue to work on creating new memories as I live in the here and now. 

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  1. My question is regarding something I can’t seem to find a lot of advice on. Or even find anyone that is struggling with this same issue so I’m tryin to understand why this is such a HUGE issue for me. I found out April 24th of this year about my husbands affairs. I thought that if I knew what the 2 women looked like I would feel better. Not to sound vain but I’m atttactive and get a lot of attention so I’m my mind I thought these women must just be knockouts. When he finally disclosed who they were I felt sick to my stomach! I KNOW that this all sounds so superficial and vain but the fact that the 2 women are both physically unappealing and also not what is my husbands “type” yet he had sex with them multiple times over a 2 year period. Knowing that he was choosing them over me and what they look like makes me feel worse and I am so enraged by it still. I feel like now no one is off limits. Like he has no standards and then I am tortured with the “did he like the sex with them better”? And the CONSTANT visuals that pop into my head and send me into a tailspin of anger and disgust! Out of everything he did and all the lies he told, why is this the detail that haunts me almost daily??? Anyone else dealt with this??

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    1. I dealt with this. My husband carried on multiple affairs for 15 years with women he met first through AOL chat rooms and then (starting in 2012) on dating apps. The women were not only unattractive, they were very sordid-looking -- like low-rent streetwalkers. Here's what I learned: It's not about how they look. Their looks are not the turn-on here. The way they look is not why he cheated. It's how the cheating MADE HIM FEEL that was the allure. It's about the ego boost of having women willing to sleep with him without having to make a real investment in them. The other women are almost always an easy lay. This makes him feel all pumped up, like he's still got it going on, even though he's a married man. He feels hot, strong and powerful. It's the rush that comes from being desired. Let's face it: unattractive girls are more willing to chase a man, attractive girls expect to be chased. It's also the rush that comes from the conquest. It's just easier to get an unattractive girl to put out than an attractive one (generally). Gorgeous OW are almost always crazy or drunks, etc. Cheating puffs up a man's ego and the more insecure a man is, the more puffed up he gets. Also, for my husband at least, in his mind, it was easier to engage in skanky sex with the trashy low-rent physically unappealing types. My husband had somewhat of a Madonna-Whore complex in addition to his porn problem so when he would get turned on by something he saw in a porn that he wanted to act out, he didn't want me in that role. He could act out his fantasies with someone he didn't care about. He also never wanted to develop feelings for his APs so the fact that they were unappealing in looks and personality helped with that. My husband was able to get his dopamine rush with very little investment on his part. As long as he has able to keep it a secret, this other life was all upside. It was only upon discovery that he realized the true extent of the downside.

      I understand what you're going through. I'm 14 months since D-Day. My husband cheated on me with over 20 women. I have pictures of almost all of them I got off their social media. I know this sounds vain and I feel uncomfortable to say this but here goes: I'm considered a very attractive woman and not one of his APs was prettier than me. Not one was even close. Everything you're feeling right now, I was feeling.

      With time and therapy and a truly remorseful husband willing to change and commit to his marriage vows, your feelings of abject horror will lessen. You're in the abyss now -- in the pit. You will climb out of this. You need time and support.

      I've been there. It's better now. Is it all better? Hell, no! But it's better.

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    2. Andrea has written a great reply to you, Unknown. There are MANY men that play down when they cheat. I will add to Andrea's response a very important fact that betrayed spouses must never forget: Your husband cheating has NOTHING to do with you. It was 100% their choice. Even is they felt unappreciated in the marriage, they could have dealt with it without betraying the loyalty to you. Of course we feel rage towards the APs because without them cheating would be impossible, but, hey, we could have cheated too and chose not to. There are temptations everywhere. Even less attractive women can tempt a man who decide to go down that path.

      Another core fact for recovery is that you must focus on YOU. Selflove is key. Take care of yourself and everything else will fall into place. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts with us. Best wishes for a prompt and full recovery for both of you.

      Lots of love,

      Helen

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  2. I suspect that I'm also dealing with a cheating husband, that's why I'm writing it here now.I just don't know what to do.
    Couple months ago I noticed a message on his phone"free tomorrow?" from unknown "Pam" .He said they сouldn't keep up with the project at work and the deadline was soon, so he and Pam, his colleagues decided to work on Saturday. I believed, cause we never had had problems with this.

    Yesterday I saw a message from her also, but that time his phone was passcoded and I couldn't see the message.
    I don't know what to think.If he cheats he will never tell me. I googled some spying systems for phones like mspylite . Do you think it will help to know what's going on? Or I shouldn't do it...

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    1. Dear Martha,

      I’m so sorry you’re going through this. My H would never admit he was cheating either. There is a fine line, especially with coworkers. It’s always good to listen to your instincts. If you feel something is off then it probably is.

      I wrote an article explaining how I discovered my H was cheating. I confronted him a whole year earlier and he denied everything. If you search “how I discovered my husband’s affair and escaped gaslighting”, you’ll see.

      I used a voice recording app. There’s nothing wrong with spying. Unfortunately if they are lying we have to catch them red-handed or they’ll never admit to it. You know him best. You could have the conversation and let him know that you suspect something is off. This will put more pressure on him to hide better if there’s something to hide and you’ll see his irritability and short temper worsen sooner.

      I hope this helps. Much love,

      Helen

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    2. Thank you for the support! It means a lot to me.

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